Appearance on The Nick Longo Show

I joined Nick Longo to battle and see who is better - me or Edmund Mitchell. We chat about our most cringe-worthy ministry moments, making Catholicism fun again, giving talks, how I spends way too much time playing video games, and how to have longevity in professional ministry. Oh yea, and we joke a lot about Edmund. This is the most fun I’ve had as a guest since, well, being on Edmund’s show. Tune in wherever you listen to podcasts!